Lindsay Clancy Day 1-10 – DID SHE KNOW?
“I’m not a lawyer, but let’s talk about this Lindsay Clancy trial and everything we’ve learned from day one through day 10 because there’s a lot going on. Now, some of this will be repetitive, especially if you’ve been following the trial or if you watch my first video, but I think it’s important that we start at the beginning so that we’re all clear on the timeline.
So, this is Lindsay Clancy, and on January 24th, 2023, she asked her husband, Patrick Clancy, to go pick up takeout for dinner while she stayed home with their three kids, 5-year-old Ka, three-year-old Dawson, and 8-month-old Ken. Now, right before Patrick leaves the house, Lindsay asks him to also stop by CVS to get some stool softener for their oldest who hadn’t been feeling well.
So, Patrick leaves the house and makes the first stop at CVS. But because he was unsure of what brand stool softener to buy, he gives Lindsay a call.”
“It was very brief. I just said, ‘Um, I think there’s a generic brand.’ And I said, ‘Is this one okay?’ And she said, ‘Yeah, that’s fine.'”
“And um, what was her demeanor during the call?”
“She was pretty quiet. It sounded like she was busy. I remember hanging up thinking she’s probably in the middle of giving baths or something like that.”
“So, it sounded to you like she was in the middle of something.”
“Yeah.”
“From there, Patrick goes to the restaurant to grab the food. And then he heads home. And when he gets home, he notices that the house is eerily quiet.”
“I called down in the basement and no one answered. I started checking upstairs. First the bathroom. I thought maybe they were taking baths. Um but there’s no one there.”
“And then did you go to your bedroom?”
“Yeah.”
“And were you able to get into your bedroom right away?”
“No. The door was locked and that’s when I knew something was wrong. Then I started unlocking the the knob. I just saw blood everywhere and the window was open. I ran downstairs and went outside. I just looked around in the backyard um below that window and I saw Lindsay.”
“Where was she um in relation to that window?”
“Directly below it.”
“Down here by the window well.”
“Yeah.”
“Uh she had deep cuts on her wrists. Um and she had a red line across her neck. I wasn’t sure what it was at first. Um but she cut her neck. Yeah. I said, ‘What happened?'”
“And what was her response?”
“She said, ‘I tried to kill myself.’ I said, ‘Where are the kids?’ She said, ‘They’re in the basement.'”
“And when you went left, what did you see?”
“I saw Cora. She had a band around her neck. I saw Ken. He was next to her. He had a band around his neck. I tried to find Dawson. I looked in the bathroom and um on the other side of the couch. And then I went to the other side of the basement and he was in my office. Um I I knew he was gone.”
“And did he also have a band around his neck?”
“Yeah.”
“5-year-old Kora, 3-year-old Dawson, and 8-month-old Ken had all been killed at the hands of their mother. yellow exercise band found with Dawson. Black exercise band found with Kora and then the blue exercise band found with Ken. And after taking their lives, Lindsay attempted to take her own life by cutting her wrist, cutting her neck, and then ultimately by jumping out of the window of her second story bedroom.
Lindsay survived, but the fall left her paralyzed from her chest down. And it also left her charged with three counts of murder for the death of her three children. And that’s because according to prosecutors, Lindsay’s actions that day were calculated. Their theory as to why Lindsay killed her kids is that she was a mother who liked to be in control.
She was particular about what they ate, what they did, who cared for them, and more. And as an example of this control they say she liked to have, they pointed to some notes she would leave her nanny when the nanny was caring for the kids. And so, for example, on Tuesday, September 4th, um she wrote:”
“Lastfed at 6:00 a.m. Give him a bottle whenever he wakes up. He likes it very warm. He’s been resisting the bottle. If it if he won’t drink it after 45 minutes of trying, please text me to let me know. Put down for next nap 1 hour after he wakes. Try to put down drowsy but awake. But if he cries, pick him up and rock, bounce, or hold him until asleep, then put down. He usually sleeps 45 minutes, but let him sleep as long as he wants.”
“Very detailed notes that Lindsay is sending uh to the nanny. Correct.”
“Yeah.”
“And then she also wrote:”
“If you have time, wash and cut up veggies. Sweet potatoes 1in cubes peeled. Broccoli small pieces. Peppers 1in pieces. Plastic ziplockc bags to put them in. Next bottle 2 and 1/2 hours after the first bottle.”
“Correct.”
“I believe what you’re reading. Yeah.”
“So very particular about what she wanted the nanny to do, how she wanted her to do it, and and what when to feed Carolyn, when to put him down for a nap, all of those things. Very particular. Correct.”
“Sounds like it. Yeah.”
“But prosecutors say with the birth of her third child and the anxiety of having to go back to work, Lindsay started losing that sense of control she had always had. She began experiencing intense anxiety that spiraled into depression. Now, she did try to seek help. But according to prosecutors, when the treatments and the medications weren’t working, and the control she once had wasn’t returning, the life Lindsay had was no longer the life she wanted.
And so according to the prosecutors, Lindsay decided that the best option was to end her life. But because of that need for control, she believed that no one would be able to take care of her kids like she could. And so her solution was to take them with her. This was a woman who acted intentionally, rationally, and swiftly to accomplish a very specific goal to kill.
She was someone who liked to control every little detail of her life, of her family’s life. It was hard for her to maintain that control. It was hard for her to bond with her kids. She made a choice, a deliberate and intentional decision that she did not want to try anymore. And because no one could take care of her kids the way she wanted them to, she had to take them with her.
The evidence will show you she was not psychotic that day. So that’s the prosecution side. And Lindsay doesn’t disagree with some of that. She doesn’t dispute that she was mentally unwell. She doesn’t dispute that she was trying to seek help and that she is the one who ultimately killed her children.”
“She knows that she killed these children. She’s living her own hell. She knows what happened with those kids.”
“But what she does dispute is whether she is criminally responsible for doing it. But I suggest to you that the issue of consideration is what was going on in that woman’s mind. In other words, Lindsay’s defense is that she cannot and should not be held criminally responsible for killing her kids because when she did it, she was suffering from a mental disease or defect that prevented her from appreciating or fully grasping the wrongfulness of what she was doing.
Her version of events is that a voice told her to kill her kids and then kill herself and that she had to do it right in that moment while her husband was away or else she would never have another opportunity to do it. And so that is the crux of this trial. Did Lindsay Clancy fully understand what she was doing when she killed her kids? And of course, because no one was inside of Lindsay’s mind that day, the defense and the prosecutor are using what led up to that day as evidence as to what was going on in her mind. Both sides are pointing to things she said or didn’t say, the things she wrote down, the things people saw of her, the appointments she had, the interactions she had, the medication she was taking or not taking. All of that they are pointing to as evidence as to what was going on in Lindsay’s mind. And just so you are tracking, the timeline in which all of this happened is a period of four months.
It’s from September 15th, 2022 when she had her very first appointment with the psychiatrist until January 24th, 2023, the day she killed her kids. That’s the background and the setup. So now, let’s talk about what led up to that day. And actually, before we get into it, it’s worth noting that the prosecutor in this case is a woman named Jennifer Sprag.
So, anytime I play a clip of a woman asking questions, you can assume that’s the prosecutor. And then Lindsay’s defense attorney is a man named Kevin Readington. So, anytime I play a clip and a man is asking the questions, it’s safe to assume that’s Lindsay’s defense attorney. Okay. Okay. So, Ken Clancy, the baby of the family, was born in May of 2022.
and June, July, and August were all fine for Lindsay, but by the fall, there was a change.”
“What happened in uh September, October of 2022?”
“Um Lindsay’s mental health started to deteriorate. Just increased stress and anxiety.”
“Did she as a result of that go to see or reach out for help to see someone?”
“I believe it was Jennifer Tufts.”
“The first doctor Lindsay sees is a psychiatrist by the name of Jennifer Tuft. And Jennifer is key to this entire story because she is the doctor Lindsay saw throughout the entirety of the four months. Lindsay saw Dr. Tu 14 times beginning with her first appointment on September 15th, 2022, which was done virtually.”
“Um, I believe her biggest concern was about anxiety.”
“Um, this first meeting with Lindsay, what was her mood?”
“It was okay.”
“And what was her affect?”
“Anxious.”
“So, she was reporting to you, she felt okay. You were seeing she looked a little anxious.”
“Yes.”
“And based on your evaluation of Lindsay Clancy that first day, September 15, 2022, did she appear to have any issues with judgment, insight, or orientation?”
“No.”
“And did you note any signs or symptoms of psychosis um with Miss Clansancy that day?”
“No.”
“And um based on your evaluation um with Miss Clansancy, everything you learned about her history and and how she presented that day, um did you have an initial diagnosis?”
“Yes.”
“And what was that?”
“It was a generalized anxiety disorder. Um, where an individual may have a lot of different worries. Um, they may also have physical feelings of anxiety. Um, but they’re worried about a lot of things, not really just one thing specifically. And it was an adjustment disorder with depressed mood. Um, so they don’t meet the full criteria say of a major depressive disorder, but there were some symptoms of depression. So I recommended a medication certuline as well as individual therapy.”
“And the medication certuline is that Zoloft?”
“Yes.”
“Lindsay’s next appointment is 15 days later on September 28th. And by this appointment, Lindsay hadn’t started taking the Zoloft and hadn’t seen the therapist that Dr. Tu recommended. But according to her, she was feeling better.”
“Um so at this point um she was improving and um we decided to pause on the medication question and have her meet with one of our therapists. So that first appointment was on uh September 15th. You recommended therapy. The next appointment was September 28th. So had Lindsay not um scheduled a therapy appointment yet with Jennifer Mallister at that point?”
“I’m not sure when she called to schedule that.”
“Lindsay’s third appointment was on October 3rd, 2022, and it was again a virtual appointment, and it was for two reasons. Number one, Lindsay wanted Dr. Tu to fill out a form allowing her maternity leave to be extended.”
“Thanks again for all your help at our last two appointments. While I’m feeling just better enough to function without medication, I did reach out to my employer about extending my leave for reasons of postpartum anxiety/ depression. I don’t feel mentally well enough to return to taking care of patients with a baby at home that still won’t take the bottle. I know this will trigger my anxiety too much and also having to stay up all night as a nurse. I don’t feel it’s possible right now. They asked that my provider could fill out a form so they could process this request. Can I please send you the form to fill out?”
“Um and you responded um on September 30th, 2022 at 2:41 p.m. Uh this type of paperwork often requires a lot of information, so it’s best if we go through it together in an appointment. Do you recall that?”
“Yes.”
“And secondly, that period of Lindsay feeling better was over. According to her, she was back to feeling anxious.”
“Well, she was uh having more anxiety again. It seemed like maybe it had started getting better and then it was it was kind of where uh where it had been when she initially reached out. Um and so she was feeling like a medication might be helpful.”
“Lindsay’s fourth appointment is on October 20th, 2022. And at this point, Lindsay had started taking that Zolaf, but after taking it for a week, she increased the dosage because that’s what Dr. Tuft had originally instructed her to do. And according to Lindsay, it made her feel terrible.”
“Um, she was having increased difficulty sleeping. She had loss of appetite, diarrhea. She was feeling her mood was down. She was tearful and feeling very foggy and feeling very anxious.”
“Um, at this meeting with her, did you ask her if she had any suicidal thoughts?”
“Yes.”
“What was her response?”
“Um, no.”
“Did you ask her if she had any homicidal ideation or thoughts?”
“Yes.”
“What was her response?”
“No.”
“Did you ask her if she was hearing any voices or or seeing um any visual hallucinations?”
“Um I’m not sure if I asked that in that appointment, but she was very clearly not psychotic.”
“Did she also tell you um that she was worried about getting suicidal thoughts?”
“Yes, it was one of the things that she was anxious about. It was a fear of one day having suicidal thoughts if uh she were to continue to feel poorly.”
“All right. So then there was an appointment the following day on October 21st.”
“Yes.”
“So why did she have an appointment that following day?”
“Um because she was feeling pretty poorly um after starting the Zoloft. So we were following her closely.”
“Uh what was the plan um that was formulated on October 21st.”
“Um so the plan was um that she start a medication called Adavan um to be taken as needed which means not necessarily every day but in the instance of severe anxiety. And um was there also again a recommendation to go to Miss Mallister for therapy?”
“Yes.”
“🍜 So that’s five appointments over the span of one month. And Lindsay really hadn’t started to see much progress. She wasn’t reporting that she was feeling suicidal or homicidal, but she did express fears of becoming suicidal. Dr. Tu told her to try out the newest prescription and come back in a week to update her on how she was doing.
And when Lindsay came back, there still wasn’t much improvement. What was her mood according to her?”
“Um it was anxious and depressed.”
“And did you discuss with her um whether the advant whether she was taking the Adavan and whether it was working?”
“Um she said that it was not helpful for her sleep but it made her feel less anxious.”
“Did you ask her that day if she had any suicidal or homicidal ideation?”
“Yes.”
“And what was the response?”
“No.”
“Did you see any signs of psychosis that day?”
“No.”
“And um what was the plan um after meeting with Miss Clancy on the 26th?”
“So we discussed starting the medication BBAR at 5 milligrams twice a day. It lowers anxiety.”
“Now throughout this process, Lindsay continuously expresses that she is hesitant about starting new medications because of the risk of becoming addicted to them. So even though Dr. Tu prescribed this bar at Lindsay’s next appointment, she tells Dr. Tu that she never started it.”
“Um so she did not start it. Um she was too afraid to start a new medication.”
“And um did you ask her if she had any suicidal or homicidal ideation?”
“Yes. Yes.”
“What was her response?”
“No.”
“Did you see any signs of psychosis present in her that day?”
“No.”
“So, the plan at that point was just to taper off the Adavan, but nothing was added at that point.”
“Yes.”
“So, at this point, it’s been a little over 2 months of seeing Dr. Tu, and Lindsay and her husband really don’t feel like she’s getting any better. So, Patrick’s mom suggests that Lindsay see a woman by the name of Julie Paul. Julie was a nurse practitioner at Southshore Health Facility, and she was leading a postpartum psychiatric program.
So, Lindsay goes to see Julie Paul on November 21st. She again gets questioned on thoughts about self harm and other harm. And she also ends up getting a new prescription.”
“Yes. I asked her specifically if she felt like she wanted to harm herself or her children and she said no.”
“And how about asking her about homicidal ideations?”
“Yes.”
“And did she indicate whether she had any?”
“She did not.”
“Um did you also ask her whether she um had experienced any auditory hallucinations?”
“I did.”
“And did she experience any?”
“Not at the time. No.”
“And did she indicate to you whether she’d ever experienced any?”
“No.”
“So for um this patient for Lindsy Clancy, what did she identify as the reason for the visit?”
“So she said pretty much I cannot sleep was her major concern.”
“Now once you were able to kind of gather all this information from her and do these screenings, were you able to come up with um an assessment and a plan?”
“So we had discussed starting Prozac. So I gave her 10 milligs for the first 4 days to make sure there were no adverse reactions and then I gave her I was going to increase her to 20 milligrams if she tolerated that well.”
“Okay. And what about some of the medications that she had already um that she was already on the Adavan and Benadryil and the Trazadone? Did you have a plan for those?”
“I did. So, I encouraged her to take the Advan just in the beginning just to help her be more comfortable with the anxiety and to make sure that it didn’t interfere with her sleep.”
“And um as far as followup with you as a clinic as the um clinician and prescriber, was there a plan set for when she was going to return?”
“Yes, we had established return in 2 weeks.”
“Lindsay was scheduled to return to the Southshore facility for her follow-up in 2 weeks, but with the understanding that Julie Paul was no longer going to be her provider. It turns out Julie Paul was moving and so Lindsay was reassigned to a woman named Dr. Rebecca Gelatada.”
“Did Dr. Gelatada to your knowledge put her on medication?”
“Yeah.”
“And what was the medication if you know?”
“Uh mainly cerakquil and um benzodiasines Adaban.”
“And and to your observation again you’re not a doctor. What you saw of your wife was she affected positively or negatively by the cerakol that she was on?”
“It appeared that she was affected very negatively and she’s reporting that it um that she was getting worse on the ceruquil.”
“And do you know did she report that to Dr. Gelata?”
“Yeah.”
“Are you following that? So by this point and I don’t think I included all the clips of all the medications she’s been prescribed Zolaf, Adavan, Benadryil that she got herself, Trazadone, Prozac, Amben, Rimmeron, Clonopin, and Cerakquil.
Now Lindsay wasn’t taking them all at one time. And in fact, she scheduled an appointment with Dr. Tu to tell her that she was transferring her care over to them and would be going by the prescription recommendations that they gave. But that was only short-lived because by December 1st, Lindsay was back to seeing Dr. Tuft in her virtual appointments.”
“And what was discussed at that appointment?”
“Um that she wasn’t getting better. She had tried the um the Adavan taper, but without the Adavan she was having a lot of difficulty sleeping. So, she tried a few different medications, a few different medication combinations. Um, but but she was having trouble with them.”
“And, these these medications that she was talking to you about, those weren’t prescribed by you, correct?”
“Correct.”
“Did she tell you that those had been prescribed by her provider at Southshore Parinatal Clinic?”
“Yes.”
“Did she also tell you that she was having some intrusive thoughts?”
“Yes.”
“Did she tell you what those intrusive thoughts were?”
“She said it was it was a feeling like I’m going to die.”
“Not a feeling that she wanted to kill herself, but a feeling like she was going to die.”
“Yes. Um did she uh did you ask her if she had suicidal ideation?”
“Yes.”
“What was her response?”
“So she denied having suicidal ideation. Um but she was feeling pretty badly. She she said she was close to it, meaning close to having some suicidal thoughts. Um and that she was feeling very hopeless, but she didn’t have any active thoughts of hurting herself. Didn’t have any intention of of doing anything. Didn’t have any plans.”
“Um, did she also tell you, and this is a quote in the records on page 144, ‘I think it’s my problem. I keep reaching out to different people and not sticking with the plan.'”
“Um, that’s what I documented.”
“Okay. Uh, and did you discuss that with her, that concern that she um kept reaching out to different people and wouldn’t stick with the plan?”
“Yes. Um, I advised that she have um one person who is is managing the medications so that it’s it’s very clear what’s happening.”
“Around the same time Lindsay tells Dr. Tu that she’s having intrusive thoughts. She also tells her husband Patrick that she’s having these thoughts.”
“She described thoughts of of hurting the kids or um or having or them having some sort of ailment.”
“And did she tell you um whether or not she had specific thoughts of how she would harm the kids?”
“No.”
“And she didn’t describe that as hearing this external voice telling her to harm the kids. Correct.”
“Correct. She told you she was having intrusive thoughts herself of having of harming the children. Correct.”
“Uh, correct.”
“How many times did she tell you this that she had thoughts of harming the kids?”
“A couple times. I think I asked her at some point, you know, do you feel like you need to be kept away from them and she said no and then, you know, it was very confusing because a minute later she was making them lunch or playing with them or, you know, getting ready for bed or whatever it was.”
“Were you concerned for the kids’ safety at that time?”
“No, I wasn’t because she wasn’t showing any intention of harming the kids.”
“And she told you she didn’t have a plan. Is that correct?”
“Correct.”
“Somebody educate me. If people are having certain thoughts, but they say they don’t have a plan, does that invalidate the thoughts, does that mean you should not take those thoughts seriously? 2 weeks after Lindsay admits to having these intrusive thoughts, the thoughts get worse. And Patrick insists that she go to the ER. And that ER visit resulted in her being admitted to a program for postpartum women, but she didn’t stay long.”
“After um being at Mass Journal on December 15th, um did she go to Women in Infants Hospital in Rhode Island um to attempt to get into their uh postpartum program?”
“She went in as scheduled.”
“And um at some point in time, did Lindsay reach out to you to say she wasn’t seeing at the program and to come pick her up?”
“Um she actually said that the um the providers at that program suggested to her that she call me and have her come get picked up and then that I should go in and meet with the providers.”
“Okay.”
“Their recommendation was that the program wasn’t right for her.”
“Right. And so you guys returned home. Is that correct?”
“Yes.”
“After that stay, Lindsay schedules an appointment with Dr. Tu to give her an update. She fills her in on the ER visit, on the half-day program stay, and the overall takeaway that she still hasn’t gotten any better.
But the prosecution highlights that while all of this is going on, these intrusive thoughts, this not sleeping, feeling anxious, depressed, and not ready to go to work, Lindsay was still going to the gym, still taking her kids to doctor’s appointments, and still socializing with her friends.”
“Um, she’s still bringing the children to doctor’s appointments during that time, right?”
“Yeah. December 27th. And make an appointment for Ken and Cora when they weren’t feeling well. Do you remember that?”
“Yeah. And then on December 30th um she was able to take Ken um to the doctor that day as well and interact with the with the staff. Is that correct?”
“Probably.”
“And um during this conversation at dinner, did she ever mention that she had suicidal thoughts?”
“No.”
“Did she ever mention that she had homicidal thoughts?”
“No.”
“Did she ever tell you that she was um hearing voices?”
“No.”
“Did she ever tell you that she was having intrusive thoughts of her own?”
“No. Other than um having an issue with sleep, did she mention any other issues that she was having?”
“Um she mentioned feeling anxious.”
“Okay, so all of that was mid December. Now fast forward to New Year’s Eve of 2022. And on this day, Lindsay is feeling especially bad. So she goes back to the ER and eventually checks herself into a mental health facility called Mlan where she sees a number of doctors.”
“She was still talking about thoughts of suicide and um I I was exhausted. I I said, ‘I think it’s time to go to MLAN.’ We didn’t have a diagnosis, so we just we just didn’t really know what was wrong. And um I think for me, I was hoping that MLAN could really evaluate her and and you know, try to figure out the best path forward.”
“Were you aware um that that night um while at the hospital um Lindsay was taking selfies?”
“Uh no. Are you asking me?”
“Yes.”
“Yeah, I can see that.”
“And then the second page is just um her legs in the doorway. Is that correct?”
“Yep.”
“As a result of going to Mass General and telling them about her her suicidal thoughts, um was she transferred to MLAN hospital?”
“Yeah.”
“Out of the few days that she was there, what 5 days she was there, you visited two or three times. Is that correct?”
“Yeah.”
“I’m going to draw your attention to a particular patient by the name of Lindseay Clancy that arrived at MLAN. um in the early morning hours of January 1st of 2023. Do you recall that patient?”
“Yes.”
“What was the chief complaint of the patient when when she arrived at MLAN?”
“Finding it hard to sleep if she didn’t take medications. Miss Clansancy complained uh one of the there were several symptoms. One of the things that she did complain about was the numbness. Um, did she report any delusions, hallucinations, or suicidal or homicidal ideiation?”
“No.”
“Going to January 3rd, um, that was the first face to face contact you had with the patient, correct?”
“Yes.”
“And what were your observations of her mental status?”
“She was appropriately dressed. Uh, her speech was of normal rate and volume. Um, behaviorally, she was polite and cooperative. um her mood. She appeared anxious. I gave her um a diagnosis of insomnia second with a mental health condition. She stated that she was anxious being in the hospital and um that she wanted to be discharged so she could be home with her family and her children.”
“And when she asked to leave earlier than Friday, um, what was your response to that?”
“I said she could leave provided, uh, she had psychiatric followup the next day. I wanted to ensure that if she wasn’t able to sleep that night after discharge that she could speak with somebody about it so that they could um come up with a plan to ensure she could sleep and to monitor how she was doing off of off the medication. I did not have any um concerns about her safety or her a risk for anybody else.”
“Lindsay is discharged from MLAN on January 6th and in the days following that discharge, she attended Kora’s birthday. She mentioned to a few of her friends that she was having some internal struggles and she had a few more appointments with Dr. Tu.”
“So, um she was continuing to feel depressed. Um she was feeling numb. Um, well, she still appeared quite depressed.”
“And I believe in this note for under condition, you wrote deteriorating.”
“Yes.”
“And why is that?”
“So, it it sounds like a very strong word. I I will give some context that it’s it’s not my choice of a word. I have three options when I’m filling that out. I can say a patient is improving, unchanged, or deteriorating. So, she wasn’t improving, and she wasn’t really unchanged. She uh appeared a little bit worse than the last time I had seen her. So, the the best word is is to say deteriorating.”
“Did she send you emails on January 11th, 2023 asking you about your knowledge and thoughts on um ketamine therapy and whether that would be a good option for her?”
“Um yes, she did. Um, but I didn’t think we were at that point yet.”
“Uh did she say, ‘I’m still feeling a very low mood, no motivation, just very depressed. This has been going on for months now, and I’m getting desperate for something that would work quickly to get me out of this depressed state.’ Um do you remember that being part of the email?”
“Yes.”
“And what was your interaction with Miss Clancy on January 16th?”
“Um her mood was still very low. Um she was she was still depressed. It was um she was able to get out of bed and take care of her basics like hygiene and eating. Um her her concentration was fine and she was doing what she needed to do to take care of her baby. Um though she subjectively felt like the bonding was forced with the baby.”
“Okay, so that gets us to the two days before the day of the incident. And these leadup days are critical because according to the prosecutor, everything about Lindsay’s actions during those two days shows that she was fully aware of what was going on. She was not experiencing any symptoms of psychosis. She was not hearing voices or anything that would indicate that she could not fully grasp the consequences of her actions.
And so starting with January 22nd, 2023, the prosecutors put up witnesses to attest to how Lindsay was behaving, including some friends she saw at a bonfire, a friend she texts with about hoping to feel better soon. And they’re able to question Dr. Tuft about these two days. Because Lindsay’s last appointment with Dr. Tuft was the day before the incident.”
“And directing your attention to Sunday, January 22nd, 2023, did you have a small gathering at your home?”
“Um, yes. Their family came over to my house.”
“Do you recall describing the day previously as a perfectly normal afternoon? Really nice.”
“It was it was a nice day. Yeah.”
“Okay.”
“And um throughout the course of that day or that afternoon that you were with her, did you notice anything change about how she was communicating with you? Like did she start to talk faster or seem confused in any way?”
“No.”
“Um was there anything that happened at that um interaction that made them abruptly leave?”
“Um no. I think it was like nap time for the kids.”
“Okay. So, in terms of January 24th, 2023, um, when the children were killed, how close in time were your text messages to that incident?”
“Only a few days.”
“Okay.”
“And what were what was that text conversation?”
“She had shared that she was had been taking a medication that um caused her to have some dark thoughts, but that she was going to or had been weaning like tapering off that medication and was trying new ones um that would remove those side effects and be more helpful and therapeutic to what she needed.”
“Did she ever express at any point um that she wanted to harm herself?”
“No.”
“Did she ever express that she wanted to harm the children?”
“No.”
“Did she ever tell you that she was hearing voices?”
“No.”
“I did not speak to Lindsay. I sent her a text message on January 23rd.”
“And what did you say in your text message?”
“Um, I’m paraphrasing, but I believe I said, ‘Hi, I’ve”
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